Friday, February 18, 2011

Haplogroup E1b1b1 (M35) Y-chromosome DNA Testing for Borghese

National Geographic Genographic Project Y-DNA Test results:

The designations for all 12 loci examined for this purpose are listed here, along with the Short Tandem Repeats (STRs) outcome for each.

Ancient, Southern Italian Borghese Family Y-DNA (not Roman)

393--390--19--391--385a--385b--426--388--439--389/1--392--389/2
13---24---13--10---16----18----11---12---12---14-----11----31

56 comments:

  1. Wow - this is really interesting research. I am also E1b1b1 - with Jewish roots.

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    1. Does not mean that you are surely of jewish origin.
      Just berber e1b1b1

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    2. I am a berber and i also have e1b1b1 DNA but i am not jewish

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  2. Where do you recommend someone get a DNA test ? FamilyTreeDNA or National Geographic ?

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  3. E1b1b1 is the most likely y chromosome marker for Jacobs son Levite. There are many Y chromosomes in current Jewish populations Including J. However the ruins of Jericho where everyone was killed reveals J y-chromosomes. In other words J is a cannanite blood. G-d forbid marriage with non-jews but over many generation have thinned Jacobs seed. Don't be discouraged though Being jewish is not 100% genetic and involves a belief in God Yew-ah. However assuming standard genetics all of Jacobs sons would have E1b1b1 and all Male Jews would. However E and D halpogroup split from a common ancestor and a large group of D men exist in Japan and practice rituals reminiscent of Levitical animal sacrifice see http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm
    The E halpogroup also occurs at 50% in Ethiopia where black Jews also practice. Genetically speaking Ethiopian Jews carry more ancient Israeli blood than all of the european Jews combined. Knowing that the E and D halpogroup is from Jacob could help with the rebuilding of temple worship and levitical priestship. It interesting to note that nearly half of Africa is of the E halpogroup. Who ever thought that Abrahams stars of the sky were actually black Africans. Just remember this; the skin is 1.5mm thick and G-d sees with the intensity of 1000 suns. Let compassion, justice and truth rule your life.

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    1. I am muslim with E1b1b1 (M35) from Morocco. Does it mean that i have jewish blod or what?

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    2. Yes.... You are a Levite. So Love your Jewish neighbor like your brother. He is. I hope you have been kind to your jewish neighbors.

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    3. I am a Sunni Muslim and I knew i am Turk but after the DNA test they said i belong to Haplogroup E1b1b1 M35 some say this Haplogroup is of the Amazigh/Berbers now after i am reading this article i am confused do not get me wrong i never hated the Jews or any of the children of Jacob/Israel but now i totally changed but that doesn't mean i will leave Islam NO ! Islam is the DEEN/RELIGION of Abraham and Ishmael and Issac it started from Adam and Eve time it is for all Humans and Jinn.

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    4. hello

      I found I am M35.1 on my Dads side and K on my mothers side. I wanted to know does that make me full hebrew? When I did a deep clath 64 marking I tested out on the M35.1 to E-V13 southern Balkin area. I feel that during the time of Moses exidus some did not go into land of Caanan but went North into what we call Greece today. I feel I am from that linage. Do you feel this may be true?

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    5. I am a direct descendant of HELON ben ZEBULON ben JACOB; E1b1b1a1b / E V13: biblically, anciently, historically, geneticlly and cartographically. I maintain that the Abrahamic Haplogroup is E. All that is needed now are physical remains to prove this 'theory'. DNA Tribes place my 'Hebrew / Scythian' ancestors about Padan-Aram [now Harran]. Couldn't be any more better extant proof than that.

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    6. HELON ben ZEBULON ben JACOB ..... are you Sephardic or Askenazi ? What are your markers? Are you on FamilyTreeDNA.com ? Which Project ?

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    7. Does not mean that Abraham was blak. I don't care.
      His DNA did not show the race.
      Berbers are sons of copts and the two are not blak.

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    8. Not sons.... I mean berbers are cousins of copts

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  4. I am muslim with E1b1b1 (M35). Does it mean that i have jewish blod or what?

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    1. Yes.... You are proto-Aramaic/Jewish. So Love your Jewish neighbor like your brother. He is. I hope you have been kind to your jewish neighbors. Start working for Peace in the Holy Land. Pray for Peace. Shalom brother. Allah is El-ah.... the same One God. God is One, there is nothing other or apart from God.

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    2. Religion has nothing to do with genetics. Jewish people come from completely different races,and are of different haplogroups. By the way show me where in the Torah or in the bible it is clearly mentioned that Abraham, Jacob and other prophets are Jewish. Where is it mentioned in those holy books that Judaism is the religion of El-ah?

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    3. Yes... Elohim. God of Jacob, God of Abraham, God os Isaac,

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    4. You're looking at it wrong, E1b1b1 is a Berber marker. Jewish Berbers with E1b1b1 are not descendants of Jewish migrants, but of Berbers who converted.

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  5. 85% of somalis r E1b1b1(M35) and this been proven in autsomal & many otha studies.It's been established they owners since carrying the latgest % in the world.Berbers r nxt with M87.Does that mean they jewish & if so aren't jews & otha carriers come from them.Like what's called SOMALID race.I know some play polotics with genetics or deny they off shoot of black people but I'm trying to get truth.

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  6. I mean 85% of somali DNA.

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  7. Real jews dont carry this e1b1b. the ones that do are bastards of ancient egyptons.somalis and ancient egyptons are brothers.Berbers are cousins of diffrent branch of e1b1b.south europeans are brothers of somali and ancient egyptons.

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    1. Albert Einstein and Isaac Luria are Jewish. E1b1b1 a1b3 - L17

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    3. I am an E1 B1 B1 M-35 that only means i am African a native North African(Berber ) i am not Hebrew , Hebrews are J1c3 just like their cousines the Arabs .

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    4. Hi

      Hebrews are from Sam. Shem is more suspected to be the father of E and D haplogroups.

      Arabs, Berbers, and Hebrews are originating from E1b1b1.

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    5. Abraham is hebrew. Jews is descendant of Abraham, son of jacob/ Israel or Judah.

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  8. Hello

    I found I am E1b1b1 M35.1 on my dads side and on my Mothers side I am haplogroup K. Does this make me a full Hebrew?
    When I was a child I aways felt close to G-d. I was raised christian, but later in life when I was 25 became Jewish. I feel very close to Isreal. Even my sisters way before this Dna.

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  9. i don't know you white people are gone mad or not
    but this E1b1b1b is completely African. Somali male
    population is like 85% E1b1b1 and 50% of Eithopians.
    Berbers, upper egyptians. so guys wether you like it or
    noy you are from us from the horn of Africa. yes crazy,
    semi desert part of Africa.

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  10. If knowledge is what you seek, learn it the right way. Leave the nationalism and false claims behind. There are too many incorrect statements made here.

    1. Do not mix genetics with the Bible, talking about Hebrew, Levite, Jew etc.. Jews (a religious group) belong to a number of haplotypes. For instance, only about 20% Ashkenazies, the largest Jewish group, clusters in subclades of haplotype E1b1b. An Equally significant number is in haplotype J1. 12% Ashkenazies are R1a1, etc...

    2. When you talk about specific populations, stick to the science. Do not conflate the ancestral root with its subclades, which are downstream. Haplogroup Y-DNA E1b1b (M215/M35)is the ancestral root, 22,400 years before the present (ybp). It is found at high rate among Ethiopians, and in smaller number among Yemenis. Berbers, Somalis are in the subclades, downstream. Most Somalis carry E-M78 [E1b1b1a1] chromosome(itself a subclade of E-V68) which developed some 18,000 ybp. Berbers stack up in E-M81, about 5,600 ybp, etc...

    3. Take time to understand the data properly. Just because one group has a high number of one subclade does not mean it is the largest, or the root. It only means that that population has less diversity. For instance 70+ percent of Somalis cluster in E-M78, and have little diversity. In genetics, this indicates that the subclade originated somewhere else. E-M78 originated in Nubia. It has four recognized subclades of its own: E-V12 (Egypt, Sudan, Somalis 70+%, Borena Oromo in Kenya, Ethiopian Oromo); E-V13 (Balkans 50%); E-V22 (Egypt, Middle East, and further east); E-V65 (Italy, Spain); and E-M521 (Greece).

    4. It is wrong to say E1b1b is Somalid or Cushitic. Even E-M78 can not be called Somalid. It is rampant in the Balkans, and elsewhere. E-M78 has been in Europe for over 10,000 years. E1b1b as a whole encompasses speakers of Afro-Asiatic superfamily of languages - Egyptian, Cushitic, Semitic, Berber, Chadic, and Omotic.

    5. For quick detailed reference, see Wikpedia "Haplogroup E-M215 (Y-DNA)"

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    1. Somalis are NOT M78,,,, they are M35 and ova 85% of their DNA.

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  11. I am Algerian but with Andalusian and Berber origin
    E1b1b1 E-M35.1

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    1. I am Libyan with the same roots (Moorish Berber Hawari ) and the same haplo-group .we are not Hebrews .we are Native North Africans .

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  12. I am E1b1b1-a1b and Jewish.

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  13. Hi,

    I'm brazilian with recent portuguese ancestors. I'm E1b1b1b, E-M35.1, M81, and the last one is M310, most recent and positioned in Middle east, no North Africa. What is exactly the meaning of M310, since my father is from Portugal and I don't see the typical North of Africa migration relation? I imagine a maritime migration would be a reasonable explanation for a quick geography change rather than a progressive one through North of Africa. It would be very difficult, however, to associate this migration to any particular event but I have a tendency to assume this might have happened after islam expansion (understand jewish-arabian mixture) and part of Iberia conquest just close to 8 A.D, unless any attractive commercial colonies along the mediterranean could justify some kind of "leaps" movement previous to that. Difficult to associate to old migration to Iberia (>5600 BC) as my ancestor didn't leave Middle East.

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  14. haloo from Hargaisa somalia Isaaq clan i made test last manth in Germany my dna became like this- E1b1b1

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  15. guys DNA proves very little..it is not precise just broad brush strokes of history,, A s the Rabbis say if your family have not practised Judaism for three generations ..you are not Jewish..
    Secondly since 500 bc Jews left Israel to trade round the med..and married local girls.. and they did the same in southern Arabia and India.....The current Arch Bishop of Canteburys father was Jewish

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    1. it's not about being jews but to trace your roots to Israel, I think. Abraham was a hebrew.

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    2. Abraham from Ur? http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=19567#.U485qtSwUe3

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  16. why everybody want to be Jewish. Good God!.

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    1. it's not about being jews. Jews people is one of Israel's son, Judah. it's about tracing Israel's roots. Abraham was a hebrew

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  17. It doesn't surprise me why everybody want to be Jewish over a sudden and not 70 years ago.

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  18. The original definition of a jew was a member of the tribe of Judah. If one's father was from the tribe of Judah you were jewish. If one's father was from another tribe, you were an Israelite but not jewish.

    The rabbis, of course, changed all that to hiide the mixed raced mamzer origins of todays edomite kharazian muts.

    Using simple logic and genetic science it is clear that most jews are not jewish according to the simple, original definition because IF they were all sons of Jacob/Israel's son Judah, THEN they would all share the same haplogroup.

    Instead male jews come from more than 5 different paternal origins, so whatever they are, most of them are not male-line descendants of Judah.

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  19. The above poster is correct. J comes from the pagan, peasant Caananite ancestry of many of people that call themselves jews.

    They had an elite priesthood whose influence strongly suggests an Egyptian origin and whose Y-DNA was probably E1b1b1a, Wikipedia propaganda regarding J cohanim notwithstanding.

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  21. Believe it or not,Y-DNA E1b1b, is Somali by origin. So if you find that you are white, yellow, or brown, remember that somali blood is running inyour body. Somali is the ancestor of all earopian, asian people and that is the fact.

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  22. The Y chromosome contains 17 genes. One of them makes you a man, the rest are mostly concerned with regulation of sperm-making. This chromosome does not exchange genes like other chromosomes so it evolves slowly. The markers used to divide mankind up into Y-chromosome clans are in the "junk" DNA, not the genes that actually do something. Basically the Y chromosome is irrelevant to race, nationality and religion. It is pretty nearly the same in all men, identical almost, especially the working genes.

    It's intersting that the E1B haplotype group may be common among descendants of the Levites. Perhaps this Y-chromosome was carried by the common ancestor of the priestly caste in Judea and Israel. But it is clearly spread over Africa, Europe and the Middle East in men of many races, religions and nationalities. Don't make it a fetish of nationalism or bigotry. It doesn't work like that. In fact, the Y chromosome does almost nothing but make girl fetuses into boy fetuses.

    I have very nearly the same Y chromosome as Einstein, Hitler, Caravaggio, the Wright Brothers, Obama and so forth, as many of you do. But this means little in the real world except that one of our many millions of lineages converges on the same man, or rather men, in the distant past.

    We all have 1,024 ancestors in the tenth generation before our own (counting ourselves as the degree Zero). 20 generations ago we have over 1,000,000, and 30 generations ago we have over one billion ancestors. That Y-chomosome of ours was just one Y chromosome in well over 500,000,000 slots in our family tree. But there weren't even that many people in the world more than a couple of centuries ago. We are evidently descended from the same people many times, but all descended from the same people and all people if you go back far enough.

    Each one of our genes (except those on the Y chromosome) get mixed, matched, broken up and spread around in a pattern so complex we can neither imagine it nor trace it. We are all one species. A species is a breeding population and all races and religions can and do breed together eventually.

    The Y chromosome is a bit of trivia. It doesn't make us Jews, Muslims, Christians or Atheists. It doesn't make us Somalis, Morrocans, Berbers, Arabs, Jews or Americans.

    The Wright Brothers are my distant cousins (I have a vast family tree) but they do no descend from my French ancestors within the last thirteen generations at least. They came by their gene from different fathers, but somewhere among the lost millions of fathers we all have, we shared one most recent common ancestor who connects us by that one chromosome of 17 genes.

    Interesting to know, but not a reason for arrogance or fear or hatred or even pride and self-congratulation. We have nearly all our genes in common as members of one species. They come, they go, they mutate, it doesn't mean a lot in the end, any more than the wandering of a dollar bill or a shekel means much to the person who holds it for a little time.

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  23. Facke israelit that's all judaism is a religion not a ploodline so get off palatine they are the fake chosen people

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  24. e1b1b1 is Somali dna period, hehee is anotha case if you e1b1b1 and don't wana be associated with black Somalis. Tough luck.

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  25. J1-P58 (J1c3) is by far the most widespread subclade of J1. It is a typically Abrahamic haplogroup, making up most of the population of the Arabian peninsula, where it accounts for approximately 40% to 75% of male lineages. The dominant lineage in the Arabian peninsula is J1-L147.1., Prophet Muhmmed (pbuh) Haplopgroup.

    J1-L147.1 is also the Cohen Modal Haplotype. Roughly half of all Cohanim belong to the L147.1 subclade. In the Hebrew Bible the common ancestor of all Cohens is identified as Aaron, the brother of Moses.

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  26. So J2 must be canaanite .

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  27. LoL

    Horn Africa Is E-M78
    Arab And Jew Is E-M84
    E1b1b1 is natufian Samitic Spread Samitic Language
    All E1b1b1 ancestor have white skin
    I am Qurashi and I know that I am the son of the prophet Ismail .

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  28. Hi my y chromosome DNA haplogroup is E1b1b1a1b3

    E-L17

    Is this Jewish or am I just in a haplogroup that has a high number of Jewish men in it. I'm from England. And my father and his ancestors don't seem to have any Jewish connection so far as I'm aware.

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